Old subway tunnel creating new stir Groups oppose move to fill in northern section Lara Becker Liu
Staff writer - Rochester
Democrat & Chronicle
(June 15, 2006) — The city should hold off on filling in the Broad
Street tunnel north of West Main Street — at least until a study of how
best to make use of the rest of the tunnel is complete, a consortium of
interest group leaders said Wednesday.
The leaders were invited to City Hall to discuss the city's
latest plans involving the old Erie Canal corridor, now a tunnel that
runs beneath Broad Street.
Debate about what to do with the tunnel — fill it with dirt,
fill it with water, put in a light rail train — continues. But city
officials, mindful of the South Avenue garage ramp collapse, now want
to move aggressively to fix structural weaknesses in the northern
portion of the tunnel.
They also want to ensure that millions in federal funding
earmarked for filling in the tunnel — a project put on hold last year —
gets used before it's reallocated.
They propose that:
* $300,000 be used to study the best use of the tunnel between South Avenue and West Main.
* $2 million to $3 million be spent fixing the portion beneath the
Democrat and Chronicle building, where newsprint
was delivered by train until 1997, and repaving the street surface.
* $9.8 million be spent filling in the northern portion and redoing the road deck to create a tree-lined boulevard.
The
group leaders, while acknowledging the need to address the tunnel's
corrosion, questioned why the work couldn't wait until the study —
which they argue should examine the entire length of the mile-long
tunnel — is finished. If timing is so critical, they said, start the
study sooner and finish it faster.
The current timeline calls for the study to begin this fall and last about two years.
Filling
the northern portion cuts off the connection to sites such as PAETEC
Park, said Christopher Burns, a member of the Subway Erie Canal
Revitalization committee, who has advocated for a trolley system in the
tunnel.
"You've taken an amputate rather than operate approach to it," he said.
Acting
City Engineer Tom Hack disagreed, saying the road deck would have to be
removed and the tunnel partially filled anyway if, say, a canal were to
be put there.
"It does not prevent (future) excavation," he said, adding that filling the tunnel is the least expensive option.
John
Dennis, of the Erie Harbor Partnership, said, "I don't see putting
millions in a tree-lined boulevard if we're going to dig them up
someday. I think it's a waste of money."
The plantings and other enhancements would cost less than $1
million, Hack said, though he acknowledged the money could be
redirected.
Barbara Hoffman, a Susan B. Anthony neighborhood
resident, meanwhile said any improvement on the west side, even along
Broad Street, "would be welcome. It is a desperate, desolate, dingy
area."
And Michael Hess, a member of the newly formed Advocates for
the Development of Rochester's Canal, said the infrastructure
improvements were fine, so long as the city gets moving on the bigger
picture — which, in his vision, involves re-watering the old canal.
"You can only make people want to live in a place that's cool to live
in," he said. "The only way to do that is create a destination. Any
number of trees or decorations is not going to do that."
Across the river, sixth-graders from the Genesee Community
Charter School shared the results of a study they went to four cities
to finish. They believe there are merits to the Grasso-Zimmer plan, a
proposal by local architects that involves re-watering the canal to
make it a destination, as similar projects have proven for Providence,
R.I.; Oklahoma City; San Antonio, Texas; and Ottawa.
"They moved the rivers in Providence," said Sandy Ryan, who
left there right after high school and now lives in Penfield, "Imagine
what we could do."
Rochester considers options for reusing the historic Erie Canal
aqueduct
Brian Sharp • Staff writer • September 9, 2008
Proposals for revitalizing the downtown Broad Street corridor and reuse
of the landmark Erie Canal aqueduct all center around water — either
with reflecting pools and fountains in the median or tearing up the
street and flooding the old canal bed again.
"We're going back almost 200 years," said Tom Hack, city project
engineer. "We're going back to our future, more or less."
City consultant FRA Engineering met separately Monday with
developers, stakeholders and the public, presenting three options
for the Broad Street corridor between South Avenue and West Main
Street.
Two options call for pulling Broad Street off the aqueduct and
filling the 19th-century structure with water again. The only option
maintaining traffic through the entire corridor bends Broad Street
southward before it reaches West Main and merges it with Ford
Street.
Among the many questions to be answered are those dealing with
traffic, how the corridor would be used during the winter, and cost
— the most elaborate option, calling for draw bridges on Exchange,
Plymouth and Washington streets, could easily hit $200 million,
officials say.
There are more questions about how to pay for such a project,
what benefit could be realized for such an expensive undertaking,
and where the people would come from to fill the envisioned
residences and shops.
City officials hope to choose a preferred option and finish a
master plan by December or January, then begin design. Work could
start in 2010 on the aqueduct, for which the city has about $8
million in public funds, largely federal
money, committed.
"What Rochester has never done is truly develop and enhance its
waterfront areas," Mayor Robert Duffy said, explaining the city must
act "boldly but also realistically" to unlock the canal and river's
full potential for downtown. "Private investment will be key in
making this happen."
City leaders have struggled with what to do with the abandoned
canal-turned-subway bed through downtown since the subway shut down
in 1956. The northern portion between West Main and Brown streets is
so deteriorated that the city anticipates filling it in with dirt in
the next year.
Some have objected, including representatives of the Susan B.
Anthony neighborhood who want to tie into the historic canal. Two of
the three options link to the neighborhood by recreating basins that
used to serve as turn-around and trading points along the canal.
Most of the attention, however, would focus on the river and the
historic aqueduct, built in the mid-1800s. Officials say the city
could draw national attention by re-watering the aqueduct, possibly
even linking to the river and allowing boats to navigate into
downtown.
Boaters would enter through a lock just south of Interstate 490.
Passage beneath the Rundel Memorial Building would be tight,
consultants said, with the remaining available channel being only
about 15 feet across and having a 12-foot clearance above the
water's surface.
"The ideas are astounding," said Sandy Zutes, 69, of Pittsford,
whose great-great grandfather had a grocery store on the canal near
Cobbs Hill Park. "Whether it ever comes to fruition or not, that
will be interesting."
Zutes and Keith Kroon, 65, a canal enthusiast from
Greece, were among the dozens of citizens who filled Gleason
Auditorium at the downtown Bausch & Lomb Public Library to see and
discuss the three concepts Monday night. The three options are among
six to eight scenarios being discussed by the city and its
consultants.
"The canal built Rochester, and we've just kind of ... we're onto
other things," said Kroon, who liked the concepts but wondered
whether they were too much for Rochester. "We've just needed a way
to make it work."
Among 25 developers represented at a morning meeting on the
project were Jim Costanza, president of Costanza Enterprises, and
Brett Costello, president of Anthony J. Costello and Son
development. Both gravitated to the most elaborate plan, calling for
full canal re-watering through the corridor.
Costello called the meeting "historic," explaining that after
years of discussion, planning and concepts, "I really believe it's
finally coming together."
One of the central themes in recent years has been to use the old
aqueduct as a museum and a passageway linking the Riverside
Convention Center and Blue Cross Arena at the
Community War Memorial to maximize the potential uses of both
city-owned facilities.
The two options that call for stripping away Broad Street from
atop the aqueduct would eliminate that possibility. Those options
would require not only tearing off the street but also the second
layer of arches on the aqueduct (circa 1920) that support the
roadway, lowering the sidewalks on either side to the level of the
river walk adjacent to Blue Cross Arena. An amphitheater would
buffer the canal and aqueduct from the higher elevation of South
Avenue.
"There is a real
opportunity to be bold in this, and I think we've shied away
from that in this community," said Heidi Zimmer-Meyer, president of
the Rochester Downtown Development Corp. "(But) I do think if we
don't do something that has a real wow factor, we're wasting our
time."
GROUP FORMED TO PROMOTE DOWNTOWN CANAL
Rochester, NY, June 26, 2006 –
A new organization has been formed to raise awareness and promote action on a major revitalization plan, centered on the re-watering of the historic downtown route of the Erie Canal.
Advocates for the Development of Rochester’s Canal, or ADROC, has been launched with the goal of seeing the opening of a new Rochester Erie Canal by 2012. According to the group, downtown canal development has changed the fortunes of
many cities facing similar challenges to those faced by Rochester—with virtually a 100% success rate—and Rochester has the unique advantage of a world-famous, historically-significant canal already in its back yard.
ADROC was inspired by the Grasso-Zimmer Canal Revitalization Plan, developed last year by canal expert Thomas Grasso and Architectural Intern Rory Zimmer, with major research and concept validation done by an R.I.T. group.
The plan proposes to take advantage of the still-existing canal bed that runs along Broad Street, roughly from the Rundel Library to the site of the new Paetec Park. The original canal flowed through the city until 1920, and was converted to the downtown subway system which ran until 1956. Much of the original structure, including the iconic Broad Street Aqueduct that carried the canal over the Genesee River, remains in place in some form. ADROC feels that recreating the original downtown canal—connected to the world via the river and Barge Canal system—will link
nearly all of the current and proposed downtown attractions and make Rochester a true international destination.
According to ADROC spokesman and local business owner Michael Hess, “A new Rochester Erie Canal is truly the ‘magic bullet’ that Rochester has been searching for.” Hess says that similar projects have been extraordinarily successful in cities of all sizes and climates, including Indianapolis, Providence, San Antonio, Oklahoma City and others. “Oklahoma City is a prime example,” says Hess. “It built the Bricktown Canal as an attraction, to try to improve its struggling downtown, and the result has been roughly $800 million per year in increased city revenue.
Imagine what we could do with the brand-name strength of the Erie Canal.” ADROC envisions a thriving destination with water-taxis connecting key attractions, ice skating in the winter, and retail and residential development all along the proposed 1.5-mile downtown canal. The group says that it is getting significant inquiries from local business leaders and others, and expects to announce the substantial involvement of at least one major local corporation within the next few weeks.
Tom Grasso, who is also the President of the Canal Society of New York State, is ADROC’s Executive Director.
Rory Zimmer and Tim Zimmer are Co-Directors of Urban Design, and Hess is Director of Marketing and Public
Relations. The group has launched a website at www.rochestercanal.com, which features the detailed proposal
plan, downtown Canal map, video, links to recent Canal press and more. Hess says the site will evolve dramatically
as the group and its resources grow and the initiative gains momentum.
If other cities can do it, why not us? kids ask
Lara Becker Liu Staff writer
(June 14, 2006) —
Where there is water, people come — even when that water runs no more than a mile long or 4 feet deep.
So
concluded sixth-grade students at the Genesee Community Charter School,
who spent the year studying canal systems and capped it off by raising
enough money to travel to Ottawa, Providence, R.I., Oklahoma City and
San Antonio to learn how refurbished or newly built waterways have
sparked a renaissance in those cities.
There's a lesson in that for Rochester, the students say.
Eric Quitter, 12,
visited Oklahoma City's Bricktown, a
mile-long waterway district that has
transformed a deteriorating area
into an entertainment hotspot.
"The potential that canal had — just think what one in
Rochester could
do," Eric said. "If we just had something to tie it
(downtown) all together,
it could be amazing."
Such a plan exists: the Grasso-Zimmer proposal, named for its
creators, retired geology professor Thomas X. Grasso, who is president
of the Canal Society of New York State and Inland Waterways
International, and intern architect Rory Zimmer. They call for peeling
back Broad Street to expose the original canal bed beneath and
refilling it with water.
The students studied their proposal, and "their final
determination is that they think it's an idea worth considering," said
school leader Lisa Wing.
"They know there are funding obstacles. They know ripping up
Broad Street would create, perhaps, a traffic nightmare downtown. And
they don't have all the answers to some of those grownup things. But
they do understand there are ways that people in other cities do get
things funded that are really major in scale."
That "the future generation (is) getting involved with this" is
gratifying, Grasso said. "They're so excited about it, it just kind of
gets you excited yourself."
(Rochester Democrat and Chronicle June 14, 2006) —
The original Erie Canal bed snakes
through Rochester like an artery — unseen beneath a concrete skin that is
Broad Street and perfectly designed, some say, to pump life into the heart
of downtown. That is, after all, how the canal once functioned, bearing ships between the
Hudson River and the Great Lakes. And visionaries say it once again could be
a functioning waterway — by ripping up Broad Street and using the old canal
bed.
After the canal was rerouted in the
early 1900s, a subway line replaced it, only to be shut down in 1956.
The canal bed/subway tunnel has long sat idle, except as a canvas for
graffiti artists and a shelter for the homeless. But visionaries continue to
champion its potential, and their ideas have lately piqued the interest of
the new city administration.
After years of discussion about
filling the tunnel with dirt — because corrosion in some parts is thought to
pose a safety hazard — the city is now preparing to request $300,000 in
federal funds to study a dozen alternative uses for the near-mile long
tunnel.
Several original concepts will be
examined, including a subterranean recreation center, a trolley line and a
public art corridor. But the ones generating the most buzz involve old
ideas: putting in a light rail transit system; and restoring the canal.
City officials are careful to say
that all options must be explored. But they appear most intrigued by the
notion of re-watering the canal.
"This one certainly jumped to the forefront," said Mayor Robert Duffy, who
toured the tunnel about two weeks ago and deemed what he saw "very
exciting."
The concept in its grandest form
calls for peeling back Broad Street from the central library (the Rundel
Memorial Building) west and north to the area near PAETEC Park, putting a
sort of bathtub liner in the exposed canal bed and filling it with water.
Boaters could then travel from the
Genesee River into the canal, using a round lock just south of the library.
Vibrancy from canal
The concept not only evokes images of a Little Venice, but it is also seen
as the idea most likely to spawn private development and tourism in an area
that includes 9.6 acres of underutilized or vacant property. "I tend to
think the canal has a little more economic oomph to it," said acting city
engineer Tom Hack. "It will create its own tax revenue, enough income where
coffee shops and other retail would be self-supporting. You don't (even)
need the tourism aspect. It's kind of like gravy on the potatoes, but it
does work without the gravy, for sure."
Generating revenue would be key,
for re-watering the canal could cost $200 million, according to one
preliminary estimate — close to what Renaissance Square is expected to cost.
HEATHER CHARLES
staff photographer
This is the entrance to the old subway tunnel off South Avenue. It took form after the canal was rerouted in
the early 1900s. Now the city is preparing a request for $300,000 in U.S. funds to study a dozen alternative uses for the nearly mile-long tunnel —
and visionaries are especially passionate about restoring the old canal.
Such estimates give some people
pause, especially after the expense of the failed ferry.
"I would say I'm pretty skeptical that that would be the best use of public
resources," said former City Councilman Brian Curran. With the city losing
population, he added, development along the re-watered canal wouldn't
generate much new revenue; it would merely shift people and resources
around.
"The crucial need for Rochester is
the creation of jobs, jobs that pay a livable wage, and I've never seen any
indication that that kind of project would do much to create jobs," Curran
said. "I think we get carried away with grand, symbolic gestures — things
that look good and sound good but don't have much substance behind them —
and this one sounds to me like another one of those."
The idea of resurrecting the canal
downtown originated with Thomas X. Grasso, a retired geology professor and
president of the Canal Society of New York State and Inland Waterways
International. He presented his idea — which Rory Zimmer, an intern
architect at SWBR Architects, added to — around the time last year when the
city announced plans to fill in the tunnel. Opponents succeeded in stalling
that plan.
The men are passionate about their
proposal and have recently formed a group to promote it. The group includes
Zimmer's brother, Timothy Zimmer, who works in the city's Planning
Department, and public relations coordinator Michael Hess.
"We're taking a cue from ourselves,
in terms of our canal history. Fairport, Pittsford, any canal community in
New York state is really vibrant, and probably only because of the canal,"
said Rory Zimmer.
He and Grasso anticipate many
challenges. "The thing I worry about (is that) the fast ferry sets back
risk-taking for five, 10 years, or even a generation," Zimmer said.
Grasso acknowledged that money was
an issue. Otherwise, he said, "it's a no-brainer. ... If you can't sell the
iconic image of America — the old Erie Canal, with boats across an 1842
aqueduct in the middle of a city — as a tourist attraction, then we deserve
to fail."
Other cities, including Oklahoma
City and San Antonio, have completed similar projects and claimed success.
Seeking proof of impact
One area of study will be whether those cities "have improved their ability
to bring population and business as a result of that," said Deputy Mayor
Patty Malgieri. "That's the kind of real impact, or proof of impact, we're
looking for."
She and others said that Rochester
couldn't take on a project this big on its own. Besides state and federal
money, the city would likely need "upfront private investment," Malgieri
said, and developers willing to do "some speculative development in areas
where we're thinking of doing public investment."
Also, the project would be divided
into "digestible" phases, according to Hack. One phase, for example, might
involve re-watering the portion between the aqueduct and West Main Street,
at an estimated cost of $40 million to $50 million.
Some funding is already in place,
including $9.8 million from the pot originally designated to fill in the
entire tunnel that will now be used to fill in the portion north of West
Main Street, which remains unstable.
There's also $6.5 million for an
"aqueduct project," which would create a physical connection between the
Riverside Convention Center and the Blue Cross Arena at the War Memorial. A
walkway would go from the convention center to the RG&E building at South
Avenue and Broad Street, into the aqueduct and from there into the Blue
Cross Arena.
Ready to study
City officials are to meet today with the people who have previously pitched
ideas for the tunnel, to discuss the study. Officials are hopeful the study
will begin as early as fall and be completed within two years.
They also stress that its findings
could preclude pursuing any of the options.
"The bottom line is, we're going to create a master plan of the corridor,"
Hack said. "The best of the best will come up to the top. We'll look at the
cost, run all those numbers, look at the big conceptual picture. Then we'll
say, 'OK, what is the actual benefit?' If it will generate revenue, housing
and retail — if it generates all that, then there's something to work
toward. If it doesn't, that's your answer."